Friday, June 05, 2009

Those mean conservatives!

A pundit of whom I have grown quite fond is Andrew Klavan of Pajamas Media/PJTV/Big Hollywood (See blogroll). He is a novelist who has had a couple of his books made into major Hollywood Movies (Don't Say a Word with Michael Douglas, True Crime with Clint Eastwood).

On PJTV, Klavan does an occasional video blog, and his latest is absolutely brilliant. Behold, as he uses the writings of Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville to explain why the fight to retain our God-given liberties (yes, my dear troll, I said "God-given") is not as "mean" as some people out there think it is.

Good Day to You, Sir

12 comments:

Donalbain said...

Someone who disagrees with you and asks you for evidence is a troll? I suppose name calling is easier than actually giving evidence to backup a claim. Whatever makes you happy.

W.R. Chandler said...

Excuse me, Mr. "3/5 of a person"? You pollute my comments section with ignorant and debunked crap like that, and then insist you're not a troll?

Go back under your bridge and stalk the billy goats.

Donalbain said...

OK.. no evidence. Just name calling. How frightfully clever. Have a gold star.

W.R. Chandler said...

Once again, the troll speaks. As I repeatedly pointed out, the evidence is 230 years of living under the following philosophy:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

That's from our Declaration of Independence, but apparently, that document doesn't count as "evidence" in the twisted, collectivist mind of the troll, who thinks government grants us our rights.

Thank God you aren't in charge Donalbain. Thank God. Thank God.

Donalbain said...

No. It does not count as evidence of a fact. It just counts as evidence that certain people believe it. That is not a complicated idea. Maybe you can work it out if you think hard enough

W.R. Chandler said...

Believe it? We Americans have lived it since 1776.

Troll.

Donalbain said...

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-authority.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

W.R. Chandler said...

Ooooo, he pulls out the wikipedia weapon.

Hmmm? To whom should I defer: 55 signers of the Declaration of Independence and 233 years of American success, or one British atheist, government-worshiping collectivist?

You make the call.

Donalbain said...

Thank you very much for proving my point. The idea is not to defer to ANYONE'S opinion. Look at the EVIDENCE.

W.R. Chandler said...

You have a point?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

It's so sad that you believe that this philosophy is a bunch of hokum.

Donalbain said...

I believe that it is someone's unsupported opinion. I also believe that some other people are of the opinion that there is a divine right of kings. I also believe that some people are of the opinion that there is no right to private property as all property is theft. I also believe that some people ae of the opinion that the rights a person has depend on their race. I also believe that some people are of the opinion that the rights people have depend on their sexuality.


Now. All of those are strongly held opinions. The point, however, is that is ALL they are. Opinions. Not one of them comes with any demonstrable evidence. Now, you might prefer to live in a society where people believe a certain way, but still, that does not turn that belief into fact.

But, you seem unable to understand that simple concept and so resort to the infantile tactic of name calling.

W.R. Chandler said...

You keep asking for evidence, I keep giving it to you, you keep asking for evidence. I name-call because I have grown bored with your obtuseness.

Stay classy.